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Hi I've been thinking about fitting one of those external security locks/handles to the habitation door. This kind of thing.


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Surely non setting mastic would have been better. If I did that, what would be the best way to seal up the screw holes. I would go for Sikaflex , available in white. If your screws were assembled dry take them out and squirt a little down the thread hole to ensure a good seal, then leave it for about 30 mins to skin before screwing them back in, it will then form a gasket type seal as it is compressed. It loos a bit messy because this was half way through the job before I cleaned it up. It's just that gap. So eventually I had the dealer relocate the pir on the end of the bed partition, it operates more efficiently from there. If there is any movement the silicon will soon lose its seal. It is suitable for exterior use and has been developed to accommodate. The only real solution I know of is to use a proper marine sealant and bedding compound. First off, that's awful about your caravan Watson JohnG. Also, most people probably wouldn't bother with a sealant in my case and afaik Fiamma don't mention using one in their fitting instructions. Given what some people have said here about the damage that can be done a a result of having these locks installed I'd almost consider removing it altogether and relying on the simple door lock. I fitted a Fiamma Security 31 handle to my last van. The point here is that you must seal those screws and their holes, using the quality silicon you have already described or Sikaflex.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I have never used it myself, but for silicon it appears to be a good quality product and will most probably do the trick. I did phone a Fiamma dealer and he said that he'd never come across a problem with water getting in through the screw holes but that I could use silicone or a non-drying mastic if I was concerned. I was just wondering what other people might do. Still, I am wondering if what I have already done is adequate? You can see the gap between the bracket and the frame where the screws are. I cannot see that there would be any movement involved as the silicone is behind the bracket which is screwed on tight against the frame. If I do go that route I'd be tempted to take the whole lock off and to put a bed of S. The unknowns are how much water will get past the screws; over what time and how long will it take to damage the wooden substrate. Not that that's such a big deal, more of a pain to re-do. The flimsy catches snapped like biscuits. Silicone is a low modulus sealant; in a short time the seal will be lost, because of the small amount of movement when using the locking device. I think the idea is to act as a deterent so that thieves go to a van without one fitted as it will be even quicker to get in without being noticed, if they do decide to wreck the side of my van getting past the handrail lock bolted through not frame so I can't help with op then the insurance will buy me a new van, everyone's a winner! I know they are screwed in tight and I called a Fiamma dealer who reassured me that this was highly unlikely but I wondered what people thought. It is just a matter of choice. I'm a little concerned that water could get into and perhaps through the screw holes into the wall. To de-bond Sikaflex once it has set there is a proprietary de-bonding liquid which will turn it into mushy goo that can then be wiped off. It is a while since I purchased Sikaflex and the price has risen considerably. As it is pretty well sealed around the gaps at the moment though, I am wondering if this is sufficient? Instead they entered through the side window. My sympathies for anyone else who has had a break-in too. They then having been unable to open the door as you say broke a flimsy window catch and then the alarm went off and they ran away! I am aware that Sikaflex is the right sealant to use with caravans. The extruded channel that the screws pass through is not just a finisher it also enables rain water that has fallen between the door and the door aperture to drain away at the bottom. I don't think I should do that one screw at a time as I might disturb the existing seal in the process. The silicone I have used is a high-quality one designed for exterior use. Although the amount you would be using is only small, I believe you could remove most of it with a blunt chisel and the remainder with white spirit and some cheesecloth. Just to be on the safe side I put some silicone around the edge of the bracket and into the groove at the top where it meets the frame and also around the screw heads. I'll have to look into it. Ok that's great. Which would mean taking the whole thing off, sealant and all and starting again. If I do take the whole thing off I will probably do that with my sealant as well as filling the screw holes. Our Swift on the other hand has the PIR at floor level on the door side and its possible to enter through the door or window not tried walk to the rear of the caravan use the loo and only on return does the alarm go off. Thanks everyone for your input. It doesn't move when using the lock mechanism. It is quite likely and normal that the handle will be used to steady individuals entering and leaving. It certainly helped my wife to climb into the van, and as a security device it prevented an entry by thieves. Back to the sealing question though, I wonder how many people would even bother to put any sealant at all around the bracket? Apply it to the dry screws were they go through the aluminium extrusion, you will be amazed at how much of it will flow past the unsealed screws and straight into the wood beneath. In terms of using the silicone WindlePoones, I take your point. However I understood that to be mainly for the main structure such as the roof and awning rail seals etc. Sikaflex again? I hope you manage to get it fixed okay. Many thanks WindlePoones for your detailed explanation. Sikaflex would be overkill for this application, but Sikaflex or will be cheaper suitable alternatives. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}I have fitted the old Fiamma Safe Door Frame lock that was on our old van onto our new one. I mentionned this to a friend and he said that he could do that too. However the doorway to your caravan is a high usage area. The point at which water will penetrate is where the screws pass through the aluminium extrusion. Is it not a bit overkill for my application? I'm surprised to hear that, though I'm sure they'd use it for 'permanent' repairs like roofs, walls, awning rails etc. Based on this and given there is likely to be only the slightest bit of movement due to usage over time, I think this particular sealant is adequate for the job, though I accept that Sikaflex would have been the best choice. I did come across one Amazon review for this lock where the owner had bedded the whole back of the bracket with Sikaflex before screwing it onto the door frame. No I would definitely use a sealant in this instance. In addition to this, the data sheet states the following:. As I said before, it is not part of the installation instructions plus I'm being extra careful. It was a Senator in which Bailey had placed the alarm PIR sensibly at roof locker height with line of site of the door and so the alarm went off. It's the type that screws into the door frame rather than through the wall. It will both seal and bond and will never leak. It certainly was effective at securing the door, but at a high damage cost. It's just we had a major problem with damp in our last caravan and I'm a bit paranoid about any damp getting in as a result. I don't mind the cost factor, it's more that I don't think it's as readily available here. Perhaps just around the gaps as I did the silicone would be adequate. Also I don't want to use anything that bonds the lock to the frame in case I ever want to remove or re-locate it. If it was only protected by the standard plastic door lock, I guess the alarm would have sounded and they would have then run off, but the lock may have been user replaceable. Very unfortunate. Of course not, if someone is determined. If you believe there will be no movement at all then silicon will quiet adequate for the job. From its specification it appears to be a good choice. However I do believe they can act as a deterrent which could reduce the chance of a break-in. Thinking about the suggestion to remove the screws and squirt sealant down the screw holes. The frame has a ridge in it so the bracket doesn't go flat against it. I will do that with the screws, one at a time if possible so as not to disturb the seal I've already put there. Evo-Stik Silicone Frame Sealant is a superior, long-life sealant specially formulated for its. Seems like the silicone might well be adequate as long as there's absolutely no movement but that the Sikaflex would be a better bet in the long run. Granted it is low modulus but as I said I don't anticipate there being any movement. This stuff will allow for movement, but tends to dry out after around 4 to 5 years and if leaks follow it will need to be cleaned off and reapplied. Its range is not adjustable and poor in operation, rubbish really, I could walk into the caravan to the shower room and back out sometimes without it operating, at first I thought the pir was faulty even with a new battery it was the same. For this particular application I think the sealant I have used is a good choice as it would enable me to remove the lock more easily. It is a high modulus, Allows for movement sealant primarily designed to seal and bed deck and through hull fittings on boats and ships. I have no illusions that this sort of lock will prevent entry. You asked how to seal the locking device's fittings so it will not leak. Also I'm wary of screwing the screws in and out more than I absolutely have to. Even with the tiniest of gaps or cracks, water will find a way to penetrate unless some sort of sealant is used. Personnally i dont think it will make any difference to a thief wanting in, a gorrila bar would take seconds with any security device, caravans have no structure to give any device the strength required, just my thoughts and maybe its because i have a metalcraft buisness involving security of premises etc, indeed i think huge expensive damage would be done and they still would get in.